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		<title>By: invest in gold</title>
		<link>http://inspiredeconomist.com/2008/10/16/gdp-vs-gpi-which-measures-the-economy-best/comment-page-1/#comment-40318</link>
		<dc:creator>invest in gold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 14:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GDP hands down. I have always used it to globally measure the ecnomy for my own interests and company. It&#039;s far more precise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GDP hands down. I have always used it to globally measure the ecnomy for my own interests and company. It&#8217;s far more precise.</p>
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		<title>By: oyvindstrommen.be traktningar&#187; Blog Archive &#187; Verdiløse handlinger?</title>
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		<dc:creator>oyvindstrommen.be traktningar&#187; Blog Archive &#187; Verdiløse handlinger?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2010 19:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 09:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s interesting. There is a common understanding in drug policy that you can separate the harms of drug prohibition from the harms of drug use. Showing the GDP as GPI + the delta (GDP - GPI) would demonstrate the harms of GDP-based policy. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#39;s interesting. There is a common understanding in drug policy that you can separate the harms of drug prohibition from the harms of drug use. Showing the GDP as GPI + the delta (GDP &#8211; GPI) would demonstrate the harms of GDP-based policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
		<link>http://inspiredeconomist.com/2008/10/16/gdp-vs-gpi-which-measures-the-economy-best/comment-page-1/#comment-37655</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 09:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s interesting. There is a common understanding in drug policy that you can separate the harms of drug prohibition from the harms of drug use. Showing the GDP as GPI + the delta (GDP - GPI) would demonstrate the harms of GDP-based policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#039;s interesting. There is a common understanding in drug policy that you can separate the harms of drug prohibition from the harms of drug use. Showing the GDP as GPI + the delta (GDP &#8211; GPI) would demonstrate the harms of GDP-based policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
		<link>http://inspiredeconomist.com/2008/10/16/gdp-vs-gpi-which-measures-the-economy-best/comment-page-1/#comment-21778</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 14:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You used &quot;it&#039;s&quot; wrong in the subheading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You used &#8220;it&#8217;s&#8221; wrong in the subheading.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 14:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You used &quot;it&#039;s&quot; wrong in the subheading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You used &#8220;it&#8217;s&#8221; wrong in the subheading.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://inspiredeconomist.com/2008/10/16/gdp-vs-gpi-which-measures-the-economy-best/comment-page-1/#comment-19096</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The capabilities in all forms of technology is now making it possihle to effect the whole economy, the environment and social structures much faster, wider and deeper than ever before. We therefore cant sustain the GDP approach as it is only a measure of money.

We have to measure the environment and the social impacts too as we need these to survive and these are not quantified in monetary terms. The environment is measured in monetoary terms by how we use/destroy it, not how we prtoect it - economics is about business and nothing else. We cant keep valuing money over and above human relationships and our environment - its just not sustainable and this creates social division and violence.

If China and India follow the narrow GDP measures, the consumerism and resource consumption by those countries in comparison with the US will be like comparing the size of our sun with the planet earth. 

So bottom line is we need to use GPI as a measure if we are to sustain ourselves past the 21st century. Our planet can survive and go on and prosper very well without humans, but humans cannot prosper without the planet and without collective positive human relationships.

With all our new technology we just cant seem to learn from past major mistakes that matter most. 

Technology has potential to cause sudden irreversable change to humanity and the planet this century and climate change is only one aspect to this - we cannot afford to keep taking a reactive approach to our refusal to learn from past major destructive mistakes, as next time, to react, will will be too late - permanently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The capabilities in all forms of technology is now making it possihle to effect the whole economy, the environment and social structures much faster, wider and deeper than ever before. We therefore cant sustain the GDP approach as it is only a measure of money.</p>
<p>We have to measure the environment and the social impacts too as we need these to survive and these are not quantified in monetary terms. The environment is measured in monetoary terms by how we use/destroy it, not how we prtoect it &#8211; economics is about business and nothing else. We cant keep valuing money over and above human relationships and our environment &#8211; its just not sustainable and this creates social division and violence.</p>
<p>If China and India follow the narrow GDP measures, the consumerism and resource consumption by those countries in comparison with the US will be like comparing the size of our sun with the planet earth. </p>
<p>So bottom line is we need to use GPI as a measure if we are to sustain ourselves past the 21st century. Our planet can survive and go on and prosper very well without humans, but humans cannot prosper without the planet and without collective positive human relationships.</p>
<p>With all our new technology we just cant seem to learn from past major mistakes that matter most. </p>
<p>Technology has potential to cause sudden irreversable change to humanity and the planet this century and climate change is only one aspect to this &#8211; we cannot afford to keep taking a reactive approach to our refusal to learn from past major destructive mistakes, as next time, to react, will will be too late &#8211; permanently.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://inspiredeconomist.com/2008/10/16/gdp-vs-gpi-which-measures-the-economy-best/comment-page-1/#comment-37653</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The capabilities in all forms of technology is now making it possihle to effect the whole economy, the environment and social structures much faster, wider and deeper than ever before. We therefore cant sustain the GDP approach as it is only a measure of money.

We have to measure the environment and the social impacts too as we need these to survive and these are not quantified in monetary terms. The environment is measured in monetoary terms by how we use/destroy it, not how we prtoect it - economics is about business and nothing else. We cant keep valuing money over and above human relationships and our environment - its just not sustainable and this creates social division and violence.

If China and India follow the narrow GDP measures, the consumerism and resource consumption by those countries in comparison with the US will be like comparing the size of our sun with the planet earth. 

So bottom line is we need to use GPI as a measure if we are to sustain ourselves past the 21st century. Our planet can survive and go on and prosper very well without humans, but humans cannot prosper without the planet and without collective positive human relationships.

With all our new technology we just cant seem to learn from past major mistakes that matter most. 

Technology has potential to cause sudden irreversable change to humanity and the planet this century and climate change is only one aspect to this - we cannot afford to keep taking a reactive approach to our refusal to learn from past major destructive mistakes, as next time, to react, will will be too late - permanently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The capabilities in all forms of technology is now making it possihle to effect the whole economy, the environment and social structures much faster, wider and deeper than ever before. We therefore cant sustain the GDP approach as it is only a measure of money.</p>
<p>We have to measure the environment and the social impacts too as we need these to survive and these are not quantified in monetary terms. The environment is measured in monetoary terms by how we use/destroy it, not how we prtoect it &#8211; economics is about business and nothing else. We cant keep valuing money over and above human relationships and our environment &#8211; its just not sustainable and this creates social division and violence.</p>
<p>If China and India follow the narrow GDP measures, the consumerism and resource consumption by those countries in comparison with the US will be like comparing the size of our sun with the planet earth. </p>
<p>So bottom line is we need to use GPI as a measure if we are to sustain ourselves past the 21st century. Our planet can survive and go on and prosper very well without humans, but humans cannot prosper without the planet and without collective positive human relationships.</p>
<p>With all our new technology we just cant seem to learn from past major mistakes that matter most. </p>
<p>Technology has potential to cause sudden irreversable change to humanity and the planet this century and climate change is only one aspect to this &#8211; we cannot afford to keep taking a reactive approach to our refusal to learn from past major destructive mistakes, as next time, to react, will will be too late &#8211; permanently.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 21:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think there&#039;s much disagreement that GDP is not an indicator of the health of the economy. As far as I know it is only used as an indicator of the amount of production. I agree that if it is used as a proxy for welfare or human development then there are some big caveats, but I don&#039;t know any economists who don&#039;t state those caveats.

What do you meen when you say &quot;should we measure&quot; the strength of an economy with something else? Who is the &quot;we&quot;. Presumably you mean governments should use better measures than GDP to evaluate progress and design policies to improve the new measure, not just GDP.

When you look at policies that governments propose how many have purely GDP as the goal? I think policy analysis uses many other indicators, depending on the nature of the policy in question. E.g. crime rates for crime policies, health metrics for health policies, ... etc.

So I&#039;m not sure how a rolled-up indicator of &quot;overall progress in human welfare&quot; would be used? It might be useful every 4 years at election time to see if on party achieved a net improvement during their term in office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s much disagreement that GDP is not an indicator of the health of the economy. As far as I know it is only used as an indicator of the amount of production. I agree that if it is used as a proxy for welfare or human development then there are some big caveats, but I don&#8217;t know any economists who don&#8217;t state those caveats.</p>
<p>What do you meen when you say &#8220;should we measure&#8221; the strength of an economy with something else? Who is the &#8220;we&#8221;. Presumably you mean governments should use better measures than GDP to evaluate progress and design policies to improve the new measure, not just GDP.</p>
<p>When you look at policies that governments propose how many have purely GDP as the goal? I think policy analysis uses many other indicators, depending on the nature of the policy in question. E.g. crime rates for crime policies, health metrics for health policies, &#8230; etc.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;m not sure how a rolled-up indicator of &#8220;overall progress in human welfare&#8221; would be used? It might be useful every 4 years at election time to see if on party achieved a net improvement during their term in office.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://inspiredeconomist.com/2008/10/16/gdp-vs-gpi-which-measures-the-economy-best/comment-page-1/#comment-37652</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 21:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think there&#039;s much disagreement that GDP is not an indicator of the health of the economy. As far as I know it is only used as an indicator of the amount of production. I agree that if it is used as a proxy for welfare or human development then there are some big caveats, but I don&#039;t know any economists who don&#039;t state those caveats.

What do you meen when you say &quot;should we measure&quot; the strength of an economy with something else? Who is the &quot;we&quot;. Presumably you mean governments should use better measures than GDP to evaluate progress and design policies to improve the new measure, not just GDP.

When you look at policies that governments propose how many have purely GDP as the goal? I think policy analysis uses many other indicators, depending on the nature of the policy in question. E.g. crime rates for crime policies, health metrics for health policies, ... etc.

So I&#039;m not sure how a rolled-up indicator of &quot;overall progress in human welfare&quot; would be used? It might be useful every 4 years at election time to see if on party achieved a net improvement during their term in office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s much disagreement that GDP is not an indicator of the health of the economy. As far as I know it is only used as an indicator of the amount of production. I agree that if it is used as a proxy for welfare or human development then there are some big caveats, but I don&#8217;t know any economists who don&#8217;t state those caveats.</p>
<p>What do you meen when you say &#8220;should we measure&#8221; the strength of an economy with something else? Who is the &#8220;we&#8221;. Presumably you mean governments should use better measures than GDP to evaluate progress and design policies to improve the new measure, not just GDP.</p>
<p>When you look at policies that governments propose how many have purely GDP as the goal? I think policy analysis uses many other indicators, depending on the nature of the policy in question. E.g. crime rates for crime policies, health metrics for health policies, &#8230; etc.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;m not sure how a rolled-up indicator of &#8220;overall progress in human welfare&#8221; would be used? It might be useful every 4 years at election time to see if on party achieved a net improvement during their term in office.</p>
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