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	<title>Comments on: Madoff Greatest Ponzi Scheme? Real Estate Magnitudes Greater.</title>
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		<title>By: Rent vs Buy &#124; Thrive: Good to Grow</title>
		<link>http://inspiredeconomist.com/2008/12/22/madoff-greatest-ponzi-scheme-real-estate-magnitudes-greater/comment-page-1/#comment-10478</link>
		<dc:creator>Rent vs Buy &#124; Thrive: Good to Grow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and the investment many people counted on may not pay off. To top off the current decline, some economists&#160; are heavily criticizing the common belief that homes appreciate in value (though they concede [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and the investment many people counted on may not pay off. To top off the current decline, some economists&nbsp; are heavily criticizing the common belief that homes appreciate in value (though they concede [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Obama&#8217;s Homeowners Assistance Plan: What is it? : The Inspired Economist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Obama&#8217;s Homeowners Assistance Plan: What is it? : The Inspired Economist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 00:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Madoff Greatest Ponzi Scheme? Real Estate Magnitudes Greater [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Buffet: &#8216;No Magic Bullet&#8217; on Credit System : The Inspired Economist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buffet: &#8216;No Magic Bullet&#8217; on Credit System : The Inspired Economist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 21:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] chairman Warren Buffett addressed the economy, credit crisis, government stimulus bills, the Madoff scandal and his own investing [...]</description>
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		<title>By: LVTfan</title>
		<link>http://inspiredeconomist.com/2008/12/22/madoff-greatest-ponzi-scheme-real-estate-magnitudes-greater/comment-page-1/#comment-1805</link>
		<dc:creator>LVTfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What most people don&#039;t seem to realize is that houses DON&#039;T appreciate.  Like cars and machinery, they depreciate, even with the best of maintenance and care.  Systems break down; layouts become obsolete; insulation wears out; new technologies in heating, cooling, insulating (etc.), better meet human needs and wants at a lower cost.  Houses depreciate at roughly 1.5% per year.  

What rises in value is land. It rises as population rises; it rises as technological advances proceed; it rises as we-the-people invest in the kinds of infrastructure and services that make a community or a state or a country a good place to live. 

And sometimes land&#039;s selling price gets detached from its actual value.  How?  Through changes in lending practices (lower interest rates, lower down payment requirements, lending to less and less able borrowers, etc.).  Through scarcity, real or induced.  Through land value taxes not being sufficiently high to collect the capitalized value of the land. (That last one is true everywhere, but especially visible and troublesome in California, where in 1978 the voters stupidly and selfishly voted for Proposition 13, which caps property taxes at 1% of the assessed value, and capped assessments at the purchase price plus 2% per year, rather than keeping honest assessments as the basis for taxation.)  California is the poster child for poor practice.  Unfortunately, the biggest beneficiaries -- its well-housed and subsidized seniors -- are not the ones receiving the &quot;come-uppance.&quot; 

You can read more about this at http://www.wealthandwant.com/ and http://lvtfan.typepad.com/.  Look for &quot;boom and bust cycle&quot; and &quot;Proposition 13&quot; among the ~900 themes at the former site.

You might appreciate Mason Gaffney&#039;s papers, featured at http://www.schalkenbach.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What most people don&#8217;t seem to realize is that houses DON&#8217;T appreciate.  Like cars and machinery, they depreciate, even with the best of maintenance and care.  Systems break down; layouts become obsolete; insulation wears out; new technologies in heating, cooling, insulating (etc.), better meet human needs and wants at a lower cost.  Houses depreciate at roughly 1.5% per year.  </p>
<p>What rises in value is land. It rises as population rises; it rises as technological advances proceed; it rises as we-the-people invest in the kinds of infrastructure and services that make a community or a state or a country a good place to live. </p>
<p>And sometimes land&#8217;s selling price gets detached from its actual value.  How?  Through changes in lending practices (lower interest rates, lower down payment requirements, lending to less and less able borrowers, etc.).  Through scarcity, real or induced.  Through land value taxes not being sufficiently high to collect the capitalized value of the land. (That last one is true everywhere, but especially visible and troublesome in California, where in 1978 the voters stupidly and selfishly voted for Proposition 13, which caps property taxes at 1% of the assessed value, and capped assessments at the purchase price plus 2% per year, rather than keeping honest assessments as the basis for taxation.)  California is the poster child for poor practice.  Unfortunately, the biggest beneficiaries &#8212; its well-housed and subsidized seniors &#8212; are not the ones receiving the &#8220;come-uppance.&#8221; </p>
<p>You can read more about this at <a href="http://www.wealthandwant.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.wealthandwant.com/</a> and <a href="http://lvtfan.typepad.com/" rel="nofollow">http://lvtfan.typepad.com/</a>.  Look for &#8220;boom and bust cycle&#8221; and &#8220;Proposition 13&#8243; among the ~900 themes at the former site.</p>
<p>You might appreciate Mason Gaffney&#8217;s papers, featured at <a href="http://www.schalkenbach.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.schalkenbach.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: LVTfan</title>
		<link>http://inspiredeconomist.com/2008/12/22/madoff-greatest-ponzi-scheme-real-estate-magnitudes-greater/comment-page-1/#comment-37816</link>
		<dc:creator>LVTfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What most people don&#039;t seem to realize is that houses DON&#039;T appreciate.  Like cars and machinery, they depreciate, even with the best of maintenance and care.  Systems break down; layouts become obsolete; insulation wears out; new technologies in heating, cooling, insulating (etc.), better meet human needs and wants at a lower cost.  Houses depreciate at roughly 1.5% per year.  

What rises in value is land. It rises as population rises; it rises as technological advances proceed; it rises as we-the-people invest in the kinds of infrastructure and services that make a community or a state or a country a good place to live. 

And sometimes land&#039;s selling price gets detached from its actual value.  How?  Through changes in lending practices (lower interest rates, lower down payment requirements, lending to less and less able borrowers, etc.).  Through scarcity, real or induced.  Through land value taxes not being sufficiently high to collect the capitalized value of the land. (That last one is true everywhere, but especially visible and troublesome in California, where in 1978 the voters stupidly and selfishly voted for Proposition 13, which caps property taxes at 1% of the assessed value, and capped assessments at the purchase price plus 2% per year, rather than keeping honest assessments as the basis for taxation.)  California is the poster child for poor practice.  Unfortunately, the biggest beneficiaries -- its well-housed and subsidized seniors -- are not the ones receiving the &quot;come-uppance.&quot; 

You can read more about this at http://www.wealthandwant.com/ and http://lvtfan.typepad.com/.  Look for &quot;boom and bust cycle&quot; and &quot;Proposition 13&quot; among the ~900 themes at the former site.

You might appreciate Mason Gaffney&#039;s papers, featured at http://www.schalkenbach.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What most people don&#8217;t seem to realize is that houses DON&#8217;T appreciate.  Like cars and machinery, they depreciate, even with the best of maintenance and care.  Systems break down; layouts become obsolete; insulation wears out; new technologies in heating, cooling, insulating (etc.), better meet human needs and wants at a lower cost.  Houses depreciate at roughly 1.5% per year.  </p>
<p>What rises in value is land. It rises as population rises; it rises as technological advances proceed; it rises as we-the-people invest in the kinds of infrastructure and services that make a community or a state or a country a good place to live. </p>
<p>And sometimes land&#8217;s selling price gets detached from its actual value.  How?  Through changes in lending practices (lower interest rates, lower down payment requirements, lending to less and less able borrowers, etc.).  Through scarcity, real or induced.  Through land value taxes not being sufficiently high to collect the capitalized value of the land. (That last one is true everywhere, but especially visible and troublesome in California, where in 1978 the voters stupidly and selfishly voted for Proposition 13, which caps property taxes at 1% of the assessed value, and capped assessments at the purchase price plus 2% per year, rather than keeping honest assessments as the basis for taxation.)  California is the poster child for poor practice.  Unfortunately, the biggest beneficiaries &#8212; its well-housed and subsidized seniors &#8212; are not the ones receiving the &#8220;come-uppance.&#8221; </p>
<p>You can read more about this at <a href="http://www.wealthandwant.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.wealthandwant.com/</a> and <a href="http://lvtfan.typepad.com/" rel="nofollow">http://lvtfan.typepad.com/</a>.  Look for &#8220;boom and bust cycle&#8221; and &#8220;Proposition 13&#8243; among the ~900 themes at the former site.</p>
<p>You might appreciate Mason Gaffney&#8217;s papers, featured at <a href="http://www.schalkenbach.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.schalkenbach.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Global Patriot</title>
		<link>http://inspiredeconomist.com/2008/12/22/madoff-greatest-ponzi-scheme-real-estate-magnitudes-greater/comment-page-1/#comment-1658</link>
		<dc:creator>Global Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While it&#039;s true that the home crisis dwarfs the Madoff scheme in terms of dollars squandered, at least the process of owning a home provides a measure of utilitarian value, it&#039;s a place to live that over time increases in value.  Those who lost their savings to Madoff&#039;s fraud have nothing to show for their efforts but an empty wallet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While it&#8217;s true that the home crisis dwarfs the Madoff scheme in terms of dollars squandered, at least the process of owning a home provides a measure of utilitarian value, it&#8217;s a place to live that over time increases in value.  Those who lost their savings to Madoff&#8217;s fraud have nothing to show for their efforts but an empty wallet.</p>
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		<title>By: Global Patriot</title>
		<link>http://inspiredeconomist.com/2008/12/22/madoff-greatest-ponzi-scheme-real-estate-magnitudes-greater/comment-page-1/#comment-37815</link>
		<dc:creator>Global Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While it&#039;s true that the home crisis dwarfs the Madoff scheme in terms of dollars squandered, at least the process of owning a home provides a measure of utilitarian value, it&#039;s a place to live that over time increases in value.  Those who lost their savings to Madoff&#039;s fraud have nothing to show for their efforts but an empty wallet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While it&#8217;s true that the home crisis dwarfs the Madoff scheme in terms of dollars squandered, at least the process of owning a home provides a measure of utilitarian value, it&#8217;s a place to live that over time increases in value.  Those who lost their savings to Madoff&#8217;s fraud have nothing to show for their efforts but an empty wallet.</p>
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